Zoloft is not habit forming. What he didn’t tell you was he was withdrawing from something else.
Probably Xanax or he might have even been abusing painkillers.
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Zoloft is not habit forming. What he didn’t tell you was he was withdrawing from something else.
Probably Xanax or he might have even been abusing painkillers.
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"The grave will supply plenty of time for silence"
Christ this is getting old. He no longer dares to quote it - it's become a primary part of his vernacular, repeated ad nauseam.
His continued usage of this phrase demonstrates why his claims of being "at the brink" with regards to suicide are fabrications meant to emotionally manipulate people. He really wanted to kill himself the same evening he was strolling down Bangla St, pockets full of Patron cash and banging practically every hooker who beckoned him?
One thing Lloyd cannot fathom is being silenced. Killing himself fulfills that Hitchens quote and effectively destroys his much touted legacy.
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Who gives a F about his personal life?
He gets off on telling people what naughty things he has done. My guess is he keeps mental notes of what he does now that could have gotten him disfellowshipped when he was a JW. Anyone else would have been embarrassed they had to pay for sex, but I think he really got off on cheating on his wife. The sheer thrill of it. Why else did he ask Dijana to purchase condoms for him when he had the tickets to Thailand? He could have easily picked them up discreetly. Lloyd wanted to leave little doubt in her mind as to what he was up to, which makes his claims that he was there for the scuba and the food such a bold faced lie.
He claims he was forced into the livestream but I think he really did want to eventually tell everyone and in the process manipulate their thinking to make what he did acceptable. The letters say it all when he outlined his proposal of an open marriage complete with regular visits with prostitutes. He wanted it all normalised. Had the open marriage worked, he would have made a video about the new arrangement, telling people how great it was for both parties. (And also signaling to his female followers that he was sexually available to them).
Same game plan here. The shroom video was his way of telling everyone he uses drugs and it’s all good. It goes much further than shrooms, but doing a video about snorting coke is taking it too far.
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he lost so much money through patreon, even the ones that clearly stated “because you cheated on your wife”.
This right here. Read that again and recall that he is calling his now ex-wife to testify, and undoubtedly is hoping she gives a heavily sanitised version of the truth to the judge. Such as:
”Yes he did cheat on me, but he did not go to Thailand for sex. All partners Lloyd cheated on me with were all consenting adults. I know because.. uhm, he told me”.
What kind of sick fuck uses his Patron’s factually correct statements that they were dropping support because he cheated on his wife, and in the same trial is calling his wife to the stand to testify? What does he want her to say? Did Novosel ever tell him there is such a thing as “cross-examination”?
If she dares to show, it’s going to be both of them who are humiliated.
Since Lloyd believes in “God” now, he’d better hope He has a sense of humour. His shroom trip was just Lloyd tapping into the recesses of his damaged brain.
If he had really met a god-like entity, it would have told him he’s about to be completely humiliated in court and he’s going to need more than psychedelics to wipe this experience from his memory.
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He just handed Dijana & the Mag7 evidence in the video (I saw God with shrooms) to use against him in any court or divorce proceedings.
Right. Some things are best left unsaid and especially unfilmed. The dates all match up too. When he was submitting his court docs and ranting on the Community Tab about the M7, he was off his meds and planning on getting high.
It's all in the video and he's supposedly making more!. Since he's suing for mental anguish and has listed his medical files from his therapist as evidence, doesn't this invalidate his argument he made earlier about Kim altering his brain chemistry because he took Zoloft? Now he's going AGAINST medical advice and consuming illegal substances in its place.
Judge: Are you taking Zoloft currently?
Lloyd: I was but I don't need it anymore. I've switched to psychedelic mushrooms!
Is him taking shrooms Kim's fault too? Shouldn't be be thanking Kim for indirectly leading him down the path of enlightenment he says he is on now?
See how he invalidates all his arguments by making these public revelations?
What about his girls seeing this? He is afraid they will find out that he went to Thailand, so what happens when his 10 year old girl who is about to enter her teens finds out that daddy said all people who are feeling down should take these psychedelic mushrooms?
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I don't judge him for taking shrooms and exploring whatever he has of a spiritual side. But I think the video was irresponsible because he heavily implied that ALL people with mental health issues should also explore this path. Shrooms and other psychedelics are not for everyone. There are severely emotionally damaged people who watch him who should have nothing to do with it. Perhaps they are not ready for it and possibly never will be. Prince Harry rightly got criticised for advocating Ayahuasca to a large audience.
He just advocated taking shrooms (admittedly an illegal substance in both his and many other countries) and not everyone has the money (or in his case a man who paid for the trip!) to go to a legal and therapeutic setting and experience it safely. An illegal substance can only be obtained illegally. Not that he cares as he's been taking substances and visiting prostitutes for years, but his viewers are known for being vulnerable, especially upon suggestions from him.
Yet another reason why he's not suited for "full-time activism" paid for by this community. The video was probably best kept private or thrown on his Random Cedars channel. But the views are more important to him.
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Watched the livestream.
Couple thoughts…. In the medical docs it was mentioned that him and his wife are in the process of getting a divorce.
Yet look at the long list of “evidence”.
He deposed Dijana for a witness statement.
Here’s the rub for me:
No court has ruled on anything yet, including a court mandated deposition from her. Meaning of course that she wasn’t compelled to do so.
She gave Lloyd that statement voluntarily.
What was she deposed about? For someone who doesn’t like to get involved in any of this, voluntarily giving a deposition on behalf of Lloyd is definitely getting involved, especially in a case that seeks criminal and civil penalties against innocent parties.
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I’m not in a hurry to watch it to find out.
So people stop giving him views, here's the TL;DR :
His benefactor (a complete stranger, never met him) invited him to Canada for shroom therapy. Must have been someone in this "industry" as Lloyd asked to see his credentials.
Had to go 30 days off anti-depressants (Zoloft) to do this. Feels he doesn't need it anymore. Went cold turkey against medical advice but he's off for good now.
Lloyd is blindfolded, laying down and listening to music for the trip.
He comes across an entity. Says everything is irrelevant in his trip and is repeating it when he sees the "kaleidoscope" scenery, but
hears the entity speak back to him in his own voice and telling him it
was relevant. Ever since he heard it speak to him in HIS voice, he listened. Until then he was skeptical.
Lloyd has this conversation with himself and his host hears him speaking for 45 minutes - 1 hour and is afraid he's livestreaming it.
Lloyd asks: "Show me how it works". The answer he gets back is "It's now or never" & "Suffering makes it real"
Says he has met "God", and it was the most fulfilling experience in his life. Well, besides Thailand of course.
He says he now has empathy for people who have had profound experiences, be it emotionally or under the influences of substances.
He expresses profound regret that not everyone having mental health issues can experience this. Advocates legalisation of all natural psychedelics.
He says he is now questioning his atheism, but still clings to it. Opines that we all may be living in a simulation.
What he took from the experience is this: "I am God and everyone is God". Will make more videos about this trip.
Really not worth watching. If you are that interested in shrooms or psychedelics then either try it or put on a Pink Floyd album.
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I can’t view the livestream in full right now. I skimmed it and saw that LE is demanding something like €17K. Is that from every member of the M7?
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He had a translation business. Er....a bit peculiar considering he only speaks one language. I think it was Dijana who did the translating....and Lloyd raked in the cash
That website was bonkers. Anyone with reading comprehension could see that he was pimping out his wife’s translation services and managing her.
Lloyd - Director/President/CEO
Dijana - Head/Lead Translator
Disingenuous way to say “only translator”. He didn’t really make much of an attempt to conceal it either, calling himself a “Croatian language student”.
So someone who’s still learning the language is coming at you as a “Director” of a translation service in the same language.
“JLE Translation Services …. Er Sorry no speak Croatian talk to wife please”
He actually named his Croatian translation service after the only person who couldn’t speak it!
What he did advertise himself as was a professional proofreader with native English fluency. Which anyone on this site with native or learnt high level fluency could do.
In typical Lloyd fashion, he gives details of how others viewed his business practices in his book. He expects the reader to drop all critical thinking and think “JW Elders Bad” and immediately take his side. I think they saw this ogre from Manchester come by and scoop up this shy and timid pioneer girl they knew most if not all of her life and take advantage of her. So this evil elder who moved into the Sisak congregation and had a hard on for Lloyd starts questioning his business practices in farming out translation work to qualified individuals in the KH.
This elder knew precisely what he was up to - giving the JW Croatian translators a small percentage of what he actually pulled in for these jobs, doing the easy work of proofreading it and pocketing the majority. A foreshadowing of what he did with exJW volunteers he never paid.
In related news, I will be opening up a Yiddish language school. Looking for fluent Yiddish teachers, please DM me for details and be prepared to submit your CV complete with references.